If it ends up with a 1on1, sure. It's really mostly just for duel happy fun "wtf? This works with bad latency too Tried this out yesterday, definetely works and im pretty sure this is an exploit cuz when u try to do this manually it will never work Edit: make sure u are directly behind target and in Ambush range, otherwise u will vanish before u ambush.
Last edited by nook; at AM. Seems very stupid to waste the CD just for an extra dmg And yet, alot of people don't realise that.. It's a good exploit, a usefull one, and one which will now probably be fixed soon as it has been posted here. Yeah it will be fixed blizzard checks this site so that they can get rid of problems like these but nice post anyway I havent seen this one before.
I can never usually get anyone to stand still long enough to ambush them in arena lol, usually just spam my sap macro, but then I am an arena nab atm gotta start somewhere eh? Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page:. Replies: 9 Last Post: , AM. Replies: 19 Last Post: , AM. Replies: 45 Last Post: , AM.
Replies: 21 Last Post: , AM. Replies: 8 Last Post: , PM. All times are GMT Considering that most casters have somewhere around health, this is a huge chunk right off the bat. Comment by gorden23 This is my entire opener.
Don't forget about certain talents I've gotten to make this opener rape. Comment by Big change made to this ability in the new patch. It can now be used with any melee weapon, no more dagger requierment although dmg is buffed while wielding dagger. It seems it can also be learned at level 8, thereby making it the first stealth-opener a rogue learns. Comment by Electrospell Another silly unstable change in 4.
I use to lvl in bgs just because i love PvP and have already done most of the PvE on my other characters. Comment by RAWRburgers if any thing rogues should be buffed Comment by Adrassius Yep, nothing like the Shadowstep , Ambush combo one-shotting you a couple of dozen times to make you leave BGs as soon as you realise the other team has four or more rogues which they all seem to since the patch.
Wow Blizz, thanks for screwing up low-level PVP! Comment by Rach3l I know that, as of 4. But does the dagger have to be in your main hand? The ability itself does not specify. I would prefer to have my dagger in my offhand but still take advantage of the increased damage, if possible. Comment by flcl92 If anyone was wondering, it's worth it to use a dagger with this ability over another type of one-handed weapon. I did all the of the math required to find it out and if anyone wants me to post the formula, I can.
I also calculated average damage before DRs with the fastest speed dagger versus the slowest speed 1h weapon, and the dagger ended up coming on top. Comment by jackpayback I don't know how ambush will be in Cata released today lol , but I strongly suggest not to rely on it too heavily.
As said several patches before, it simply does not do enough dmg - even with massive AP, resilience just wiggles it down. Either rely on its double CP generation or any other opener, but don't put too much hopes up for that good ol burst dmg.
Comment by parazyte Please post some calculations proving daggers are better. Try my values you will get the same numbers. I e the more AP you have the more the curve smoothens out. Weapon speed favors a slow MH weapon. This is because the normalised damage doesnt care about weapon speed only the min-max of the tooltip and slow weapons have higher min-max. All normalization is doing is weighting in how much AP goes into the equation.
This already clears a huge chunk of your opponent's health. Then I use Hemorrhage to cause my target to bleed from Glyph of Hemorrhage. Then you should have 5 combo points and spend them on Recuperate.
This will give you 12 energy a tick if you have the talent Energetic Recovery from the subtletly tree. Then quickly cast Shadow Dance , Cheap shot your target so that it can not move, run behind it, and spam Ambush til it drops.
If not dead at the end of your 8 second shadow dance yeah, it is 8 seconds, because you did buy the Glyph of Shadow Dance , you can either Eviscerate or Kidney Shot. Arena matches might last slightly longer. Have fun! Comment by druidsrus does the dagger have to be equipped in your main hand for the damage bonus? Comment by durok Can't use it with a Fishing Pole. Comment by The scaling of this ability from 1 to 90, totally make sense.
Comment by Yorfriend In WoD, ambush can be cast although you are not standing behind your target. Comment by 11unone11 I wanted to make such a powerful strike , which would end the tide of a battle from the beginning. I wondered, how to make it so extremely mighty , so the enemy can't respond since it's used and can't prevent its use. And here is what I found. First move - choose the Sub spec. And, here we go!
Just find a way to stack Expose Armor 3 times and control the guy till u can do your Stealth. Sometimes, when patient just becomes sick , using random trinkets, bubbles or whatever, you need to have some patience For more low leveled people about lvls is to sap, wayt for full energy, BS, then wayt for one tick meaning a delay of 2 seconds because of the fact that every two seconds, the rogue regains 25 energy then use gouge, and BS again.
Overall, BS's usage is much more flexible than that of ambushes, mainly because BS can be performed any time of the fight, while ambush is the opening attack. When I got ambush I thought about getting a better weapon for more dmg so I got Assasin's blade. Attack Power is more useful on slow weapons. That's why 1. I would recomend that getting your off-hand fast becuase it can apply your posions to do just as much damage.
If you want a sword in off hand make sure it's 2. If your asasination specd. Slow are better for AP, but don't go too slow becuase then posions wont apply too often. Otherwise, I don't know that much about asa. Comment by Thottbot Ambush is pretty cheap, usually get the mobs my level half their health with crit improved ambush.
I use a really slow mace in main hand beacause your sinister strike depends on how high dmg per swing you do. In off-hand you should always have the fastest weapon beacause then your poisin will apply more often. I am thinking of respeccing and become a regular backstabber but since I have respecced once it costs 10g so I have 1 questions: Is it worth it? Thanks in advance! Comment by Thottbot I can't decide of my rogue will use a dagger or another weapon
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